Vangile Makwakwa takes us on her journey growing up under South African Apartheid, watching it fall, and then navigating institutionalized white supremacy in the post-Apartheid era. She opens up about the extent of racial trauma she experienced when working at Stellenbosch University and how it drove her leave South Africa and travel the world. Vangile then talks about a pivotal transitionary moment in Trinidad and Tobago that inspired her to do an MBA, become a digital nomad, and teach about healing ancestral money trauma. She talks about the Shamanic traditions of her family in South Africa and offers a critique of the cultural appropriation that is often marketed to white Westerners under the guise of ‘new age spirituality.’ Vangile then explains the way systemic oppression relates to ancestral money trauma, shares her personal journey navigating through it, and explains how she now helps other women of color do the same. She also talks about the power dynamics of nomading on a South African passport, and shares her strategy for reducing her encounters with anti-Blackness around the world. Finally, Vangile reflects on what travel means to her. FULL SHOW NOTES AVAILABLE AT: www.TheMaverickShow.com
Episode #226: The Legacy of South African Apartheid and Healing Ancestral Money Trauma While Traveling the World with Vangile Makwakwa
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About the Guest
Vangile Makwakwa
Vangile Makwakwa is a location-independent entrepreneur, real estate investor, world traveler and the founder of wealthy-money.com, a company that helps women of color heal ancestral money trauma so they can fall in love with their bank accounts, increase their income and live their best lives. She is the author of 3 books and the host of two podcasts on money, finance and investing. Originally from South Africa, she has been running her business remotely while traveling the world for the past 15 years.
What You'll Learn
- The ongoing impact of South African Apartheid
- The cultural expropriation that underlies some “new age spiritualities”
- How to understand and heal ancestral money trauma
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TOP 5 AFRICAN MUSICAL ARTISTS
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UNIVERSITY MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
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[3:11] Growing up under Apartheid in South Africa
[4:49] Experiences with Integration After the Fall of Apartheid
[8:38] Racial Trauma from Working at Stellenbosch University
[18:02] Van’s Experience in Trinidad and Tobago
[21:45] Van’s Experience in India
[22:47] The Historical and Cultural Significance of Shamanic Traditions in South Africa
[25:47] Culturally Expropriating and Marketing “New Age Spirituality” to White Westerners
[29:45] Listen to the Flourish in the Foreign podcast by Christine Job
[30:50] The Connection Between Systemic Oppression and Generational Money Trauma
[36:09] Healing Ancestral Money Trauma
[41:49] Founding Wealth-Money.com to Help Women of Color Heal Ancestral Money Trauma
[46:09] Nomading on a South African Passport and Navigating Anti-Blackness
[51:02] What Travel means to Vangile
[52:57] The Lightning Round
[57:59] Follow and Connect with Vangile