Learn about black community building across geography & language, challenging the gender binary & decolonizing ourselves. Shayla Lawson joins Matt for a wine night and starts off talking about growing up in Kentucky, becoming a poet, traveling the world, and writing “How to Live Free in a Dangerous World: A Decolonial Memoir”. They reflect on the African diaspora renaissance in Lisbon, the impact of James Baldwin, and how to travel in a way that allows it to play a role in personal growth. Shayla then reflects on B/blackness globally, being in solidarity with other colonized people, and black community building beyond geography and language. They then talk about they/them pronouns, colonial enforcement of the gender binary, and the anti-LGBTQIA+ bills in Ghana and Uganda. Shayla also reflects on liberation and the importance of decolonizing ourselves. They then open up about living and writing with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, and traveling as a disabled person. Finally, Shayla talks about their writing process and gives tips on how to turn your travel experiences into great stories.
Episode #280: How to Live Free in a Dangerous World and Write a Decolonial Memoir with Shayla Lawson
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About the Guest
Shayla Lawson
Shayla Lawson is a professor of English and Creative Writing at Amherst College, and the author of 5 books, including their latest: “How To Live Free In A Dangerous World: A Decolonial Memoir.” Shayla has been published in Salon, ESPN, New York Magazine, and was a nonfiction finalist for the National Book Critics’ Circle and LAMBDA Literary Award. Originally from Lexington, Kentucky, Shayla is also a world traveler and has spent time in over 50 countries.
What You'll Learn
- How to write great travel stories
- How to think about liberation, decolonizing ourselves, and personal growth through travel
- Thoughts on black community building beyond geography and language
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LOCATIONS WHERE THE INTERVIEW TOOK PLACE
- Matt: Asheville, North Carolina
- Shayla: Amherst, Massachusetts
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OTHER PLACES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
- Africa
- USA
- Bronx
- Eritrea
- Ghana
- Israel
- Italy
- Lisbon
- Madagascar
- Portugal
- Uganda
- UK
- Washington DC
- Zimbabwe
OTHER PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
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- Donald Trump
- Donna Summer
- Fred Moten
- Grace Jones
- James Baldwin
- Kristin White
- Little Richard
- Martin Luther King Jr.
- Sammy Davis Jr.
- The Monkey Nuts (Band)
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Time Stamped Show Notes
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[2:38] Introducing Shayla Lawson
[4:49] Growing up in Kentucky and Wanting to Be a Writer
[7:02] Being a Poet and Documenting Travel Experiences
[9:12] Writing “How to Live Free in a Dangerous World: A Decolonial Memoir”
[12:27] Traveling the World in a Way That Allows it to Play a Role in Personal Growth
[14:11] Reflections on the African Diaspora Renaissance in Lisbon, Portugal
[19:30] Reflections on James Baldwin
[24:01] Black Community Building Beyond Geography and Language
[27:47] Reflections on B/blackness Globally
[32:28] Solidarity with Other Colonized People
[34:34] Reflections on They/Them Pronouns
[39:24] Colonial Enforcement of the Gender Binary
[44:28] Reflections on the Anti-LGBTQIA+ Bills in Ghana and Uganda
[47:34] Decolonizing Ourselves
[49:12] Living, Traveling and Writing with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome
[55:32] How Shayla Structured the Book
[57:44] Writing Travel Stories
[58:29] The Difference Between Poetry and Prose
[1:00:41] How to Turn Travel Experiences into Great Writing
[1:02:24] Reflections On Liberation
[1:05:49] The Lightning Round
[1:12:20] How to Follow Shayla and Buy Their Book