Learn about growing up in Iran, being a refugee in Europe & ethical considerations when traveling to low income areas. Youshita Fathi joins Matt and they start off talking about how they met at the Extraordinary Travel Festival in Bangkok and connected around their shared human rights activism. Youshita then talks about her recent trip to Jamaica, including both the importance of getting out of the tourist areas and the ethical dynamics of visiting low-income or high-crime areas. Next, she describes her recent trip to Libya in 2025 and why it was so special to her.  Youshita then talks about growing up in Iran until the age of 13, and the experience of her family applying for refugee asylum in Europe.  She reflects on what that experience taught her about the way refugees are treated, and what she learned from the other refugees she met during that time.  Youshita then describes her experience culturally acclimating to Austria as a teenager, confronting stereotypes about Iranians, and later working at an NGO to help religious minorities emigrate from Iran.